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Discourse, 7 April 1844, as Reported by Times and Seasons

shall welter for ages. I say this for the benefit of strangers. I have a father, brothers, and friends who are gone to a world of spirits. They are only absent for a moment; they are in the spirit, and when we depart we shall hail our mothers, fathers, friends, and all whom we love.— There will be no fear of mobs, &c., but all will be an eternity of felicity. Mothers you shall have your children, for they shall have eternal life; for their debt is paid, there is no damnation awaits them, for they are in the spirit.— As the child dies, so shall it rise from the dead and be forever living in the learning of God, it shall be the child, the same as it was before it died out of your arms. Children dwell and exercise power in the same form as they laid them down. The baptism of water without the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost attending it is of no use: they are necessary. He must be born of water and the spirit in order to get into the kingdom of God.
In the German, the text bears me out the same as the revelations which I have given for the last fourteen years. I have the testimony to put in their teeth; my testimony has been true all the time. You will find it in the declaration of John the Baptist, (reads from the German), John says I baptize you with water, but when Jesus comes, who has the power, he shall administer the baptism of fire, and the Holy Ghost. Great God! where is now all the sectarian world! and if this testimony is true, they are all damned as clearly as anathema can do it. I know the text is true. I call upon all you Germans, who know that it is true, to say aye, (loud shouts of aye.) Alexander Campbell, how are you going to save them with water alone? for John said his baptism was nothing without the baptism of Jesus Christ. There is one God, one Father, one Jesus, one hope of our calling, one baptism—all these three baptisms only make one. I have the truth and am at the defiance of the world to contradict me, if they can. I have now preached a little Latin, a little Hebrew, Greek and German, and I have fulfilled all.— I am not so big a fool as many have taken me to be. The Germans know that I read the German correct.
Hear it all ye ends of the earth—all ye sinners, repent! repent! turn to God, for your religion wont save you, and you will be damned; I do not say how long; but those who sin against the Holy Ghost cannot be forgiven in this world, or in the world to come; they shall die the second death; as they concoct scenes of bloodshed in this world so they shall rise to that resurrection, which is as the lake of fire and brimstone: some shall rise to the everlasting burning of God, and some shall rise to the damnation of their own filthliness—as exquisite as the lake of fire and brimstone.
I have intended my remarks to all; both rich and poor, bond and free, great and small. I have no enmity against any man. I love you all. I am your best friend, and if persons miss their mark, it is their own fault. If I reprove a man and he hates me, he is a fool, for I love all men, especially these my brethren and sisters. I rejoice in bearing the testimony of my aged friends. You never knew my heart; no man knows my history; I cannot tell it. I shall never undertake it; if I had not experienced what I have, I should not have known it myself. I never did harm any man since I have been born in the world. My voice is always for peace, I cannot lie down until all my work is finished. I never think any evil, nor any thing to the harm of my fellow man.— When I am called at the trump of the ark-angel, and weighed in the balance you will all know me then. I add no more. God bless you all. Amen.
The choir sung a hymn at half past 5 o’clock and dismissed wtih a benediction
(To be continued.) [p. 617]
shall welter for ages. I say this for the benefit of  strangers. I have a father, brothers, and friends  who are gone to a world of spirits. They are  only absent for a moment; they are in the spir it, and when we depart we shall hail our moth ers, fathers, friends, and all whom we love.—  There will be no fear of mobs, &c., but all will  be an eternity of felicity. Mothers you shall  have your children, for they shall have eternal  life; for their debt is paid, there is no damna tion awaits them, for they are in the spirit.—  As the child dies, so shall it rise from the dead  and be forever living in the learning of God, it  shall be the child, the same as it was before it  died out of your arms. Children dwell and ex ercise power in the same form as they laid  them down. The baptism of water without the  baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost attending it  is of no use: they are necessary. He must be  born of water and the spirit in order to get into  the kingdom of God.
In the German, the text bears me out the  same as the revelations which I have given for  the last fourteen years. I have the testimony  to put in their teeth; my testimony has been  true all the time. You will find it in the dec laration of John the Baptist, (reads from the  German), John says I baptize you with water,  but when Jesus comes, who has the power, he  shall administer the baptism of fire, and the  Holy Ghost. Great God! where is now all the  sectarian world! and if this testimony is true,  they are all damned as clearly as anathema can  do it. I know the text is true. I call up on all you Germans, who know that it is true,  to say aye, (loud shouts of aye.) Alexander  Campbell, how are you going to save them  with water alone? for John said his baptism  was nothing without the baptism of Jesus  Christ. There is one God, one Father, one  Jesus, one hope of our calling, one baptism— all these three baptisms only make one. I  have the truth and am at the defiance of the  world to contradict me, if they can. I have  now preached a little Latin, a little Hebrew,  Greek and German, and I have fulfilled all.—  I am not so big a fool as many have taken me  to be. The Germans know that I read the  German correct.
Hear it all ye ends of the earth—all ye sin ners, repent! repent! turn to God, for your  religion wont save you, and you will be damn ed; I do not say how long; but those who sin  against the Holy Ghost cannot be forgiven in  this world, or in the world to come; they shall  die the second death; as they concoct scenes  of bloodshed in this world so they shall rise to  that resurrection, which is as the lake of fire  and brimstone: some shall rise to the everlast ing burning of God, and some shall rise to the  damnation of their own filthliness—as exquis ite as the lake of fire and brimstone.
I have intended my remarks to all; both  rich and poor, bond and free, great and small.  I have no enmity against any man. I love you  all. I am your best friend, and if persons miss  their mark, it is their own fault. If I reprove  a man and he hates me, he is a fool, for I love  all men, especially these my brethren and sis ters. I rejoice in bearing the testimony of my  aged friends. You never knew my heart; no  man knows my history; I cannot tell it. I  shall never undertake it; if I had not experi enced what I have, I should not have known it  myself. I never did harm any man since I  have been born in the world. My voice is al ways for peace, I cannot lie down until all my  work is finished. I never think any evil, nor  any thing to the harm of my fellow man.—  When I am called at the trump of the ark-an gel, and weighed in the balance you will all  know me then. I add no more. God bless  you all. Amen.
The choir sung a hymn at half past 5 o’clock  and dismissed wtih a benediction
(To be continued.) [p. 617]
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Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, LDS church purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas. Served as church headquarters, 1839...

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