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Letter from John Vance, 1 November 1841

Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, LDS church purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas. Served as church headquarters, 1839...

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Ill. Nov 1st 1841
Brother Smith you will recollect I addressed you a line last Summer by Wm [Smith]

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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in relation to the propriety of exchanging my farm for one in Hancock County

Formed from Pike Co., 1825. Described in 1837 as predominantly prairie and “deficient in timber.” Early settlers came mainly from mid-Atlantic and southern states. Population in 1835 about 3,200; in 1840 about 9,900; and in 1844 at least 15,000. Carthage ...

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, as an opportunity then offered, Wm

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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informed me, you thought it most expedient for me to stay where I was, now you could not infer from that letter that I solicited permition to stay, neither do I wish to be understood so at presant, for I do Know that I feel perfectly resigned & subject to the council & instruction of the Presidency, but thinking it highly probable that my case might be an exception to a general rule, or to the instructions previously published in the times & Seasons, I therefore laid my case before you requesting the mind & will of the Lord concerning me, determined at the same time to make any sacrafise that he might require so I feel yet, and as Wm

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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informed me you was some what thronged at that time, and might not have duely considered or reflected on the subject I again lay it before you
Now in regard to the Subject presented this morning it is this, I have 280 Acres of land 9 Miles West of McComb

Incorporated as city, 1841. McDonough Co. seat. JS’s brother Don Carlos Smith lived nearby Macomb, 1839. JS visited Don Carlos, June 1839.

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10 Miles East of Ramus

Area settled, 1826. Founded by Latter-day Saints, 1839–1840, following exodus from Missouri. Town platted, Aug. 1840. Post office established, Sept. 1840. Incorporated as Macedonia, Mar. 1843. Renamed Webster, 23 July 1847. Population in 1845 about 380. Crooked...

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in McDonough Co

Formed from Pike Co., 1825, organized 1829. Population in 1835 about 2,900. Population in 1840 about 5,300.

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in 4 miles of the County line of Hancock

Formed from Pike Co., 1825. Described in 1837 as predominantly prairie and “deficient in timber.” Early settlers came mainly from mid-Atlantic and southern states. Population in 1835 about 3,200; in 1840 about 9,900; and in 1844 at least 15,000. Carthage ...

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, which I consider worth 7$ per acre but owing to the presure of time I cante sell it, which I wish to appropriate (with the excpetion of, say 200$,) in that way which will be most expedient for the promotion of the work of the Lord I have proposed in my own mind a part to the Temple

JS revelation, dated Jan. 1841, commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction directed by committee, which included Reynolds...

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a part to the Nauvoo House

JS revelation, dated 19 Jan. 1841, instructed Saints to build boarding house for travelers and immigrants. Construction of planned three-story building to be funded by fifty-dollar shares. Cornerstone laid, 2 Oct. 1841, but building never completed beyond...

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& the balance to the printing of the Scriptures If otherwise however would be more advisable I am subject to council. Now you will please devise a plan ways & means by which this property can be brought to bear on the subject & oblige one who esteems you as a friend & brother in the new & everlasting Covenant
John Vance
To Joseph Smith [p. [1]]
Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, LDS church purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas. Served as church headquarters, 1839...

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Ill. Nov 1st 1841
Brother Smith you will recollect I addressed you a line  last Summer by Wm [Smith]

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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in relation to the propriety of excha nging my farm for one in Hancock County

Formed from Pike Co., 1825. Described in 1837 as predominantly prairie and “deficient in timber.” Early settlers came mainly from mid-Atlantic and southern states. Population in 1835 about 3,200; in 1840 about 9,900; and in 1844 at least 15,000. Carthage ...

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, as an opportu nity then offered, Wm

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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informed me, you thought it most  expedient for me to stay where I was, now you could not  infer from that letter that I solicited permition to stay, neither  do I wish to be understood so at presant, for I do Know that I  <feel> perfectly resigned & subject to the council & instruction of the  Presiden[c]y, but thinking it highly probable that my case might  be an exception to a general rule, or to the instructions previous ly published in the times & Seasons, I therefore laid my case before  you requesting the mind & will of the Lord concerning me, determ ined at the same time to make any sacrafise that he might require  so I feel yet, and as Wm

13 Mar. 1811–13 Nov. 1893. Farmer, newspaper editor. Born at Royalton, Windsor Co., Vermont. Son of Joseph Smith Sr. and Lucy Mack. Moved to Lebanon, Grafton Co., New Hampshire, 1811; to Norwich, Windsor Co., 1813; and to Palmyra, Ontario Co., New York, 1816...

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informed me you was some what thronged  at that time, and might not have duely considered or reflected on the  subject I again lay it before you
Now in regard to the Subject presented this morning  it is this, I have 280 Acres of land 9 Miles West of McComb

Incorporated as city, 1841. McDonough Co. seat. JS’s brother Don Carlos Smith lived nearby Macomb, 1839. JS visited Don Carlos, June 1839.

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 10 Miles East of Ramus

Area settled, 1826. Founded by Latter-day Saints, 1839–1840, following exodus from Missouri. Town platted, Aug. 1840. Post office established, Sept. 1840. Incorporated as Macedonia, Mar. 1843. Renamed Webster, 23 July 1847. Population in 1845 about 380. Crooked...

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in McDonough Co

Formed from Pike Co., 1825, organized 1829. Population in 1835 about 2,900. Population in 1840 about 5,300.

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in 4 miles of the  County line of Hancock

Formed from Pike Co., 1825. Described in 1837 as predominantly prairie and “deficient in timber.” Early settlers came mainly from mid-Atlantic and southern states. Population in 1835 about 3,200; in 1840 about 9,900; and in 1844 at least 15,000. Carthage ...

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, which I consider worth 7$ per acre  but owing to the presure of time I cante sell it, which I wish to  appropriate (with the excpetion of, say 200$,) in that way which  will be most expedient for the promotion of the work of the Lord  I have proposed in my own mind a part to the Temple

JS revelation, dated Jan. 1841, commanded Saints to build temple and hotel (Nauvoo House). Cornerstone laid, 6 Apr. 1841. Saints volunteered labor, money, and other resources for temple construction. Construction directed by committee, which included Reynolds...

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a part  to the Nauvoo House

JS revelation, dated 19 Jan. 1841, instructed Saints to build boarding house for travelers and immigrants. Construction of planned three-story building to be funded by fifty-dollar shares. Cornerstone laid, 2 Oct. 1841, but building never completed beyond...

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& the balance to the printing of the Scriptures  If otherwise however would be more advisable I am subject  to council. Now you will please devise a plan  ways & means by which this property can be brought  to bear on the subject & oblige one who esteems you as  a friend & brother in the new & everlasting Covenant
John Vance
To Joseph Smith [p. [1]]
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John Vance, Letter, Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, LDS church purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas. Served as church headquarters, 1839...

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, IL, to JS, Nauvoo

Principal gathering place for Saints following expulsion from Missouri. Beginning in 1839, LDS church purchased lands in earlier settlement of Commerce and planned settlement of Commerce City, as well as surrounding areas. Served as church headquarters, 1839...

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, IL, 1 Nov. 1841; handwriting of John Vance; one page; Helen B. Fleming Collection, CHL.

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