In the latter part of June last, I heard Joseph Smith Jr say, That if the people would let him alone he would conquer them by the sword of the Spirit, but if they would not he would beat the plow shears into sword & their pruning hooks into spears & conquer them he would he said <​soon after this​> what do we care for the laws of the land, when there are <​is​> no person to so long as there is no person to put them in force.— after this I had some talk with him. & I observed to him that I thought people ought to obey the laws of the land and then he repeated the same thing again— A Soon after the time that Phelps & Williams was baptized, (about the last of June <​or July​> last) I heard say, in , that if Phelps or Williams apostatized again, or disobeyed the presidency <​set up against the government or Kingdom— ​>. the Lord would kill them in half an hour, or would put it in to the hearts of his saints to kill them.— I knows of no other violent measures except from rumour— I live in 4 miles of , and have been occasionally there in the day time but never attended their private meetings— and further this deponent saith not.

Some time in June I attended two or three Danite meetings. and it was taught there as a part of the duty of that band, that they [p. [50]]