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Discourse, 7 April 1844, as Reported by William Clayton

If I comprehend so that the spirit seal it upon you hearts let every man and woman put his hand on his mouth & never say any thing against the man of God again but if I fail it becomes my duty to renounce all my pretensions to inspirations &c and if I should do so should I not be as bad as all the rest of the world. not a man would not breath anathema if they knew I was a false prophet some would take my life. If any man is authorised to take my life because I am a false teacher then upon the same principle and am I authorised to take the life of every false teacher and who would not be the sufferer— but no man is authorised to take away life in consequence of their religion all laws and government ought to tolerate whether right wrong If I show that I have the truth of God & 99/100 are false teachers while they pretend to hold the keys of God & go to killing them because &c would it not deluge the world in blood. Want you should all know God— be familiar— If I can get you to know I can bring to him, & if as you will cease to persecute me I speak in authority.— What kind of a being was God in the beginning. hear all ye ends of the earth, I am going to prove it by the bible & the relation the human family sustains with God. 1st God that sets enthroned is a man like one of yourselves— that is the great secret. If the vail was rent to day & the great God who holds this world in its sphere in its orbit— the planets— if you were to see him to day you would see him in all the persons image very form of man. for Adam was created in the very fashion of God. Adam received instruction walked talked as one man with another In order to understand the subjects of the ded for the consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends necessary they should understand Going to tell you how God came to be God We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. These are imcomprehensible to some but are the first principle of the gospel— to know that we may converse with him as one man with another & that he was once as one of us and was on a planet as Jesus was in the flesh— [p. 13]
If I comprehend so that the spirit seal it upon you  hearts let every man and woman put his hand on his  mouth & never say any thing against the man of God again  but if I fail it becomes my duty to renounce all my  pretensions to inspirations &c and if I should do so should  I not be as bad as all the rest of the world. not a man  would not breath anathema if they knew I was a false prophet  some would take my life. If any man is authorised to take  my life because I am a false teacher then upon the same  principle and am I authorised to take the life of every false teacher  and who would not be the sufferer— but no man is  authorised to take away life in consequence of their religion  all laws and government ought to tolerate whether right wrong  If I show that I have the truth of God & 99/100 are false teachers  while they pretend to hold the keys of God & go to killing them  because &c would it not deluge the world in blood. Want you  should all [k]now God— be familiar— If I can get you to know  I can bring to him, & if as you will cease to persecute me  I speak in authority.— What kind of a being was God in the  beginning. hear all ye ends of the earth, I am going to prove it by the  bible & the relation the human family sustains with God. 1st God  that sets enthroned is a man like one of yourselves— that  is the great secret. If the vail was rent to day & the great God who  holds this world in its sphere in its orbit— the planets— if you were to see  him to day you would see him in all the persons image very form  of man. for Adam was created in the very fashion of God. Adam  received instruction walked talked as one man with another  In order to understand the subjects of the ded for the consolation of those  who mourn for the loss of their friends necessary they should understand  Going to tell you how God came to be God We have imagined  that God was God from all eternity. These are imcomprehensible  to some but are the first principle of the gospel— to know that  we may converse with him as one man with another & that  he was once as one of us and was on a planet as Jesus was  in the flesh— [p. 13]
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