giving my affidavit—that I could make four or five hundred dollars out of it—and said he would give me $450 for my chance. I have since been offered $500 to go away. Mr. Conyers [Converse] told me if he was in my situation he would go away; that the mobocrats would kill me. I never told Tom English that I would get $500 for appearing, but that I probably could. Think I knew George McLane [McLean] and George Seabold. I never told them that I was to get any thing for swearing in this case. Think I may have talked with them about it. Don’t know that I ever told them that I did not know who killed the Smiths. Think I never did. Have been offered $2,500 not to appear, when I lived in , but don’t know by whom. Do not know that I have ever seen the men before or since. Think it was before the last term of Court, by two men, on Third street, below Jersey. They asked my name, were young men of moderate size, between five and six feet high. I do not know whether they were of the same size. Was not in conversation with them more than a minute. They asked me who I was. I told them, and they then told me their business, and showed me some money. They told me they would give me $1,500 in cash, and $1000 in land in , if I would not appear at Court. Cannot say what time of day it was. Thought of it some, but it did not worry me. Thought it was a good deal of money to offer a man. Do not know how they were dressed—was not very cold weather. Do not know whether they wore hats of caps. I wheeled round and left them—went off. Gave them to understand I would not take it. I talked with them and faced them after I passed them. When I was going off, they showed me more money. It looked like silver—they had a handful of it. I said nothing to them then. I then lived at the corner of Third and Jersey streets, west of Third, north of Jersey. They met me by York. The women told me they had been to my house and enquired for me. I told it to our folks right off, and to Mr. Rice [Pierce] and Mr. Haywood before I came to Court. I did not ask the men where they came from, or their names; and did not notice which way they went; did not look after them. I joined the Mormon Church not long before last Court. Think I have seen Mr. [John D.] Mellen before. Never said it was Mellen, or that he was about the size of Mellen—might have said it was Mellen, or that he was about the size of Mellens. Do not know whether I did or did not tell English that I had written a book out of which I was to make money. The flash looked like lightning. Don’t know what time it was, perhaps 4 or 5 o’clock. It was the shady side of the house. I have not followed my trade in ; am doing nothing of consequence there. There is a painting there, representing the killing of the Smiths, which I have exhibited. If they asked me I told them the light was wrong. The picture belongs to .