Account of Trial, , Hancock Co., IL, 21–28 May 1845, State of IL v. Williams et al. (Hancock Co., IL, Circuit Court 1845). Transcribed from shorthand [before 24 Aug. 1858]; handwriting of and Daniel Mackintosh; 106 pages; Report of the Trial of the Murderers of Joseph Smith, 1845, CHL.
You were 50 yards distanse from him? Yes about that. You say you could not hear any thing said? No not that I recollect. Did any person make any reply? I do not recollect. And that was all you heard said at that time? Yes. Who was that Carthage Gray? I do not know him. What size of A man was he? He was A middling sized man. Was he A stout round fased man was he stouter than you are? Yes Sir. About what age might he be? I should think about 30 years of age. Do you think you would know him if you should see him? No I never saw him before nor since? How can you discribe him then? I recollect him so that I can describe him. Had he A hat or A cap on his head? I dont recollect. What kind of A coat had he on? He had A gray coat on. Was it A short coat or A long one? It was A short one. Had it short skirts or was it A round about? I had skirts upon it. What kind of pantoloons had he on? I dont recollect. How did you know this was A Carthage Gray? I was told it <he> was. Was he talking in A loud voice? Not very loud. Was he talking as loud as I am now? About as loud. What els did he say? I did not hear it. What did you hear him say? He said there was no body in but what we can depend upon, now is the time for you to rush on. Was you halted or driving on? I was standing still at that time. Did this happen in the frunt [front] or rear of the companys? It took place about the middle. Who told you he was A Carthage Gray? I do not recollect. Did you see Grover talking with him? I dont recollect wether he was talking to him or the rest of them. Where did that Gray go to? He came in this way. Where did he come from when he came to the company? I do not know. Was he on horse back? Yes. What kind of A horse was he riding? I forget. Did you ever state that he was riding upon an Iron gray horse? I think it was an iron gray or A rone, and it if was not that coulor it was some other couler. Had you any thing to drink that day? Yes Sir I had taken enough so that I felt pretty well. You felt pretty nice? Yes. How nice was you? [p. [75]]