Account of Trial, , Hancock Co., IL, 21–28 May 1845, State of IL v. Williams et al. (Hancock Co., IL, Circuit Court 1845). Transcribed from shorthand [before 24 Aug. 1858]; handwriting of and Daniel Mackintosh; 106 pages; Report of the Trial of the Murderers of Joseph Smith, 1845, CHL.
was before the Grand jury? We made it from the best recollection we had of the case, and hearing the evidence again. Was not his evidance the same as before? Generally; I think the evidance was the same in substance. When was it this evidence was given before the Grand jury? Last fall.
Did you hear <him say> on Yesterday how meny got into his waggon? I think he stated there was 5. Do you recollect that he said Boarus and Gallier got into his waggon? I think he stated that Boarus and Gallier did not get in to his waggon. Did this differ from his evidence before the Grand jury? I think to the best of my recollection he said Boarus and Gallier got into his waggon but being loaded too heavy some <one> got out. Did he state his name that got out? He stated his name was James Greg. Do you recollect or did you hear what he said on yesterday about the Gray when he came up? I dont know that I did. You recollect that he s[t]ated before the Grand jury that the Carthage Gray held conversation with and Steavens? I do. What became of the written evedance that was taken last term of Court before the Grand jury? It was said to be taken away by Mr. McNeal [Murray McConnel]—
Do you or not know if has seen that written evidence? I do not. Had you no conversation with him? I have had some conversation with him. Do you know if that written testimony was sent for by him through the mail? No. Did he say what he heard the Gray say in conversation with these men? I dont recollect. Was there A Miss Eliza Grame [Graham] called and examined before the Grand jury? There was not. Retired.
Mr. Reynolds I will get you to inform the jury wether you where not in the Grand jury? I was. Was there A witteness examined before the Grand jury by the name of ? There was. Will you state what said on that occasion as to ’s presense at the jail at the time of the killing of the Smiths? He said he [p. [85]]