I did not write the book that has my name to it; it was written by . I told him the story many times; though I never wrote a book. I saw some of it before it was published, and some I never saw before. I saw a light—I suppose it will astonish some—a short light, right at the bodies. It is reported differently in the book. Possibly it might have been the reflection from the muskets. I was some excited. Was not a Mormon, but am now, live in , and am a cooper by trade; do not work at it now. I am from , am 24 years old, and have been in 7 or 8 years—in Kane county. My father and mother are dead. It was not long after the killing before the Greys got there I left town immediately after the occurrence.

Cross-Examined.

I lived about 3 miles from Augusta, and had been there for a year. I went two or three days before the Smiths were killed. Was not doing any thing there, but wished to go to . Boats had passed in the mean time, but I did not go. The Ohio, on which I wished to go, did not come up; and I thought I would stay and see what was going on in . If I had staid longer, I should have coopered some. I joined ’ company on the morning of the murder, and was furnished with a yager without bayonet. I dont know who I reported myself to; had seen several times; do not know who gave me the gun. I knew before of the intention to murder the Smith’s; the night before I heard the officers talk about it—viz: Grover, , and . All said something, the substance of which was, that they were to send 20 men to kill the Smiths. There were others present; this was on parade ground. Do not know how may were present, but near a dozen,by themselves. I was there. I had started for and returned, came up behind some, and facing others. I had seen them before. I had no business there. This was in the evening, before dark; they were in a ring on the open ground, and I came right up. They picked the 20 men from and Grover’s companies. I recollect two men by the name of [Henry] Stephens, no others; some refused to go. I was not called on. I joined them that I might go and tell , with whom I was acquainted. Do not think they would have let me go along. No one had prevented me from leaving before, when I started to . They put me under guard that night, and told the men to keep me there, and let no one pass. After the council got through, they turned and talked with me; I do not know who talked with me. Nothing was said to me about killing the Smiths. They put me under guard right off. No one else to my knowledge was put under guard; do not know how many were guarding me. Cannot [p. 8]