make any speech, he was round among the troops, I did not know what he said, I asked him, if he was going back, he said he was. How many started to come to . It is more than I can tell. Did a hundred start this way, I think there was. What time of the day did they start for . About twelve O.clock. Was there any on foot. Some few. Was , , , and Grover, on horseback. Grover was not on horseback, the other three was. Who took the command. I could not tell. And refused to go as Captain. Yes. Then I suppose was over the whole concern. I do not know. How far, did you come, with them. I turned off to the left. Did you here any more speeches made. said something. With regard to what. He spoke of the grievance of the people, and that the Mormons, had the power themselves, and they must do something to stop it, that was about the substance of what he said. What was the words used. He said the Mormons, had the power to elect the officers, of the , and that Joe, would select his own Jurors, and be set free. Did he say anything more. Yes, but I dont recollect all his speech. He said Joe, would select the officers of the did he. He did. Did he say any thing more that you remember. He said, the had said, whatever they did, to do it quickly How long did he speak. A few moments. what were the grievances spoke about. He said that Joe, violated that Laws, and trampled upon your rights. Did speak before . No. Did not make a very fair start at it, and arose up, and made the speech. Was and Grover, there at that time, rode up, about the <​time​> was closing his speech. And said [p. [14]]