Account of Trial, , Hancock Co., IL, 21–28 May 1845, State of IL v. Williams et al. (Hancock Co., IL, Circuit Court 1845). Transcribed from shorthand [before 24 Aug. 1858]; handwriting of and Daniel Mackintosh; 106 pages; Report of the Trial of the Murderers of Joseph Smith, 1845, CHL.
I forget. Did you know any other person in that waggon besides ? I forget but I beleive there was one of the name of Jo [Robert] Johnson, but who els I cannot say I am not shure he was in the waggon but I think he was.
Had any of those in that waggon been with the troops when you left the rail road crossing? I think not. Did they stop when they came up to your waggon? They past by two or three rods south of us. Did they make any enquirys as they past? I dont know wether they did or not. Did they go to the jail? No. Had there been any firing at the time this waggon past? I beleive there was firing at the time they past. You think the firing had commenced at the jail at the time they past? I believe it had. About how meny persons came out of the town and went to the jail? About 50.
Did you hear any firing before you heard that at the jail? The first I saw was at the jail. Did you see the troops as they came up the fence side from the timber to the jail? Yes. Was there any firing as they came up the fence? No. You heard no firing at all then when they came up the fence? No. By what means did you ascertain they where fireing when past you? I saw the smoke of the guns. Was the smok on the out side the jail on inside? It was on the out side. Did you see any flash? I saw the smoke rise at the knock of the gun. What side of the jail where the men that was firing? At the south end. Where they just firing at the jail? I do not know what they where firing at. Did Grover say how he got loose from Smith? No. Where abousts was Glewer wounded in the face? In the cheek like as if ball had taken the skin off. What age was Glewer? He was A boy between 14 and 18 I should think. How far from was it where Grover got out of your carriage <waggon>? It was two or three miles from hear. Did you see any thing more of him that night? I do not recollect. Who was in your waggon when you got to ? <One or> Twoorthree <two> men. Did Wells ride all the way? No; and the Chatendens did not ride more than half a mile. You went most of the way then with an empty waggon except two or three men? I had not more than 5 I beleive. Where do you reside? A . Are you a member of the Mor[mon] church? No. Have you A family? No. Who do you live with in I live with my step father. Is he A member of the church? Yes. His Is your ? Yes. What buisness do you follow? Loafering. [p. [79]]